{"id":7032,"date":"2011-10-07T15:15:09","date_gmt":"2011-10-07T15:15:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.diaryofanadi.co.uk\/?p=7032"},"modified":"2022-12-29T21:42:13","modified_gmt":"2022-12-29T21:42:13","slug":"examiner-claims-unfair-dismissal-and-loses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/diaryofanadi.co.uk\/?p=7032","title":{"rendered":"Examiner Claims Unfair Dismissal (and Loses)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>This is an old story. DSA is now DVSA.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A story appeared a few days ago on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-england-cornwall-15154767\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"Devon Driving Examiner claims unfair dismissal\">BBC website about a driving examiner in Devon<\/a>, who claimed she was bullied over her pass rate.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.diaryofanadi.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/examiner.jpg\" alt=\"Driving Examiner\" class=\"wp-image-7033 lazyload\" title=\"Driving Examiner\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nicola Bentley-Lovell made a claim of constructive dismissal against the DSA. She&#8217;d worked as an examiner for seven years up until October 2010 but resigned after she allegedly had to take a lot of &#8220;bullying and harassment&#8221; over her pass rate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She said that over a six-year period she underwent 165 internal check tests (the normal check rate in that period would have been a maximum of around 50 per examiner).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She claims that her managers &#8220;urged her to increase her pass rate&#8221; as it was below &#8220;acceptable variance&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You can read the full story in that link &#8211; it is bulked out with a variety of claims that are not directly connected with the issue of variance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At this point, the forums lit up with the usual crowd of fossils and know-it-alls &#8211; idiotic claims about people always failing tests on a Friday, accusations that they get cash bonuses for meeting targets, and so on. Hard to believe many of these people can get away with calling themselves &#8220;professionals&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What shut them up rather quickly was the subsequent story a few days later &#8211; also on the BBC &#8211; that <a title=\"BBC - Devon Examiner loses unfair dismissal case\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-england-devon-15192555\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the examiner had lost her case of unfair or constructive dismissal<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, I&#8217;ve <a title=\"Examiner Makes Accusations Very Public\" href=\"https:\/\/www.diaryofanadi.co.uk\/?p=3594\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">written about variances before<\/a>. There was a case where a <a title=\"Scottish ex-examiner - update to story\" href=\"https:\/\/www.diaryofanadi.co.uk\/?p=3642\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Scottish ex-examiner<\/a> was moaning about how his bosses wanted his pass rate to <strong>come down!&nbsp;<\/strong>He also had a gripe over &#8220;variances&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is clear is that a lot of people &#8211; examiners like these two, and plenty of ADIs who persist in their archaic careers solely to hate the DSA &#8211; do not have a clue what variances actually are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you toss a coin, it is 50:50 whether it will be heads or tails. In theory, if you toss it a hundred times, you should get 50 heads and 50 tails. In reality, you might get 45 heads and 55 tails &#8211; or the other way round&#8230; or anywhere in between. Or even a bit different.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What you won&#8217;t get is 80 heads and 20 tails. And even if you did, you wouldn&#8217;t get the same again, and you certainly wouldn&#8217;t get it if you upped the tosses to 1,000 or 10,000.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The same is true of examiners. No matter what happens, in theory only a certain percentage of test candidates will pass, and it <strong>is not<\/strong> 100% of them. So if you have on perfect examiner conducting all tests, you would end up with a pass rate somewhere around 40%. That&#8217;s just the way it is &#8211; that 40% is the equivalent of the 50:50 of coin tossing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Arguably, if all ADIs were perfect and taught to a perfect standard, and this one perfect examiner took all the tests, then the pass rate would theoretically be 100%. But you don&#8217;t have perfect ADIs, you don&#8217;t have perfect pupils, and you don&#8217;t have perfect examiners.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What you do have are typical human beings who are affected by typical human defects. Variances, if you like. And that&#8217;s where the 40% comes from.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, if you tossed that coin a hundred times and it came down 80 heads, would you think there was something wrong with it? Well, I would. And if the same thing happened for the next hundred tosses, I&#8217;d be certain. And if it kept happening, I&#8217;d use a different coin next time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But the problem appears to be that some people wouldn&#8217;t see this as an issue and would reject any attempt to fix the coin so that it came down 50:50 like it should do. And this is exactly what keeps happening with these examiners who keep going on about variances, and the ignorant ADIs anxious to believe the worst.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If an examiner has a pass rate which is not the equivalent of 50:50 for a coin toss test (or 40% in their case), or within reasonable limits (95-105% of that 40%), then they are not performing to the required standard &#8211; just like the coin that keeps giving 80 heads in every hundred tosses!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Both examiners in these publicised cases appeared too stupid to realise this simple fact.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If someone is on your case for six years &#8211; giving you every opportunity to examine what you do &#8211; you have to be a very special kind of person not to be able to realise something is up. 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