Lincs Man is Banned, Then Drives Home

It seems that Lincolnshire also has its share of village idiots at the moment.

Sean Baker, 44, had appeared in front of Magistrates in Lincoln over driving with no insurance. The Lincolnshire Magistrates don’t appear to subscribe to the same interpretation of the law as their colleagues on Merseyside and in Lancashire, and banned him for six months.

Baker then left the court and was seen shortly afterwards by the police sergeant who had given evidence against him driving a Ford Ka.

His defence offered:

Mr Baker told me he has no excuse. He drove the car to court and didn’t expect to be disqualified.

Apparently the case was adjourned for probation reports to be compiled. I’d suggest an intelligence test, too.

Bolton Motorist Jailed for Dangerous Driving

I saw this in The Bolton News. Ashley Buckley, 21, was caught driving dangerously TWICE in less than 12 months. Police saw him behind the wheel of a Citroen Saxo – a car favoured by the Prat Men of our society – while he was disqualified from driving (presumably from the first time).

He flung the car around to face oncoming traffic, drove off, and stopped the car to run away. He had pulled off a similar stunt the previous time by driving through red lights (anyone looking to employ a getaway driver should avoid this guy).

The police didn’t need to chase him, because they knew who he was and just went round to his house later to arrest him (Buckley also seems to have the intellignece favoured by his kind).

His defence lawyer said:

He apologises for his stupidity.

Of course he does. Mind you, it is fortunate this was dealt with by the Crown Court (which jailed him for 10 months). If it had been the Magistrates on Merseyside or in Lancashire he would probably have been awarded damages for the stress the police put him under by spotting him, and sent on holiday somewhere.

As it is, he’ll have to wait a bit before trying for Arrest #3.

Driving Licence Points Sky High II

Lionel HutzThe BBC has obviously found a rich vein to suck dry here. They’ve done another FOI request – this time in Lancashire – and found a motorist on 30 points without a ban.

The article has the same Lionel Hutz-type lawyer and the text is more or less identical to that in the Merseyside story.

I’m still going with the common denominator here that it is the worst areas for crime where ridiculous amounts of “discretion” are being applied. The courts seem to think that by not putting these scumbags in prison (or banning them) they’ll somehow turn them into good guys.

The reality is that they’re just taking the piss.

Still Driving at 100!

Anyone who reads this blog regularly will know that I don’t have a lot of time for older drivers who are clearly a risk, and yet keep on driving (or complain if they are banned because of poor eyesight or other problems, as if they have some special right to drive).

When I first saw this in the newsfeeds, I was immediately sceptical – but the lady concerned, Peggy Hovell, doesn’t seem to fit the usual bill.

Even so, I will say what I’ve said before. At 100 years of age, she is a hell of a lot closer to the end than she is to the beginning. So is it safe for her to be on the road when she could – and let’s be honest about it – peg out at any time?

It’s a very tricky question.

Update: And the Daily Mail has got hold of it a few days later than everyone else.

Driving Licence Points Sky High

Driving LicenceAnother freedom of information (FOI) request – by the BBC this time - makes interesting reading. I’m not quite sure why they made the request, though they seem proud of the fact they did.

A driver on Merseyside is apparently happily driving around with 23 points on their licence. Another has 21 - and figures from the DVLA show that 322 people in that area have 12 or more points, yet aren’t banned.

The DVLA has no influence on the sentences given to offenders. The courts are entirely to blame for this ridiculous situation.

What makes this laughable is that the Magistrates’ Association sets out guidelines for imposing sentences for the courts to apply. This apparently includes taking into account the seriousness of the offense and the personal circumstances of the offender.

Manchester lawyer Nick Freeman said it was important that courts have some discretion in how they deal with points cases.

“I think if you take away that discretion then we don’t really need lawyers, we don’t need judges, we don’t need magistrates, we need robots.”

Well, maybe that’s exactly what we need. It’s hardly a good use of “discretion” when the areas most likely to have lunatics engaged in points-gathering activities are the ones most likely to have “discretion” applied like this. The “discretion” is 100% misguided.

One of my pupils’ told me her father had been arrested for being slightly above the drink-drive limit after he stopped to report an accident that he wasn’t involved in. His job depended on his driving licence, and yet he was still banned. Subsequently, the responsibility for driving him fell to my pupil – who was still learning at the time. It then became clear that she was suffering from bipolar disorder (like her mother), and the additional stress of this coupled with her exams was becoming a big problem for her.

Not a lot of discretion shown there, was there?

And yet if she’d lived on Merseyside, it could have all been different.

The problem is, these prats (I think the proper word is “scallys”) just think they can get away with it – and the courts are letting them. I mean, you have to go through four red lights or get caught speeding four times to get 12 points. Isn’t that enough for people to learn about right and wrong?

The courts are allowing twice that to these idiots.

More Driving Test Naïvete

Someone asked on a learner forum what to expect on the driving test. Along the way, another person asked::

Is it unlikely to have the same examiner twice?

They got the answer:

No, I had the same one three times.

At my two test centres, there are around 8-10 examiners working at each. That means you’ve got as high as a 1 in 10 chance of getting the same instructor twice. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times it has happened, even with pupils who have taken more than 2 tests. It depends on where you are, and what day of the week it is (weekends, only one or two examiners might be working).

Then there is the comment:

You pull out of the test centre, either doing a bay park then or driving for about 10 mins before doing a reverse park, three point turn or reverse round the corner, drive for another ten mins then do independent driving

Not everyone has a test centre you can “pull out of” (one of ours, for example), which means that a bay park is probably not even on the agenda. Even if it is, there is a 50:50 chance the bay park manoeuvre will be done at the end of the test. And if that’s the manoeuvre you’re going to do, you won’t have to do any of the others – except maybe the emergency stop, which is separate and is carried out on a third of all tests. Again, it depends on where you are.

Someone else asks:

How many times do they ask you to pull over?

One reply says that they were asked three times. But for the record, I once had a pupil who was asked to pull over at least 10 times – the examiner explained at the end that it was a near perfect drive, but he just wasn’t checking his blind spots on moving away. He’d given him a lifeline by keep pulling over, but he didn’t cotton on to it, so he failed. On the way back the pupil said:

I couldn’t figure out what was going on. He just kept pulling me over!

I could have killed him. On his previous tests he had not had a single fault for this – on this one he just went nuts. Yet again, there is no set answer: it just depends.

But the best comment so far has to be:

Just check your mirrors like every 2 seconds and check EVERYWHERE before you pull out/do manouvers. I passed before the new rules came into play so i’m not sure what exactly happened, but as for the show me tell me questions, your allowed to write on the parts of the engine what they are (i.e brake fluid, screen wash) and apparently its not cheating. There is a full list of the questions they will ask you online, here’s the one I used: [link removed]

DON’T check your mirrors “like” every 2 seconds. You’ll spend more time looking behind than at what is happening in front.

DON’T write anything under the engine (unless you want them to think you’re a prat from the start). Strange as it may seem, the parts you need to remember have little pictures on them which can take the place of words if you learn what they mean! There are other tell-tale signs:

  • the windscreen washer reservoir has a picture of a windscreen with squirting water on it
  • the engine coolant/radiator fluid reservoir has a hot water symbol on it, and pipes lead to it from the radiator at the front of the car
  • the brake fluid reservoir has a normal brake symbol on it
  • the oil dipstick looks exactly how you expect one to look, and has a ring on the end so you can pull it out

It varies a little from car to car, but not by much. And the other thing to remember is that the test marking sheet has around 50+ tickable items on it. The show-me-tell-me questions are peanuts compared to the rest of it (you only get one fault if you get both of them wrong – though doing so will still make you look like you don’t know what you’re doing), so just learn them and concentrate on driving. Don’t make it harder than it needs to be.

I also shake my head sometimes at answers like this, which strongly suggest the author didn’t have a clue going in. Because the answer is rather simple…

If you want accurate information about the driving test, get it from the DSA – not people who think what happens to them is the only possible way. And your theory test material and driving instructor should cover the questions so they don’t come as a big surprise.

When Booking Your Driving Test…

Just a few reminders:

  • only book via the Official DSA website
  • use this link for Theory Tests
  • use this link for Practical Tests
  • do not use any other sites except for these – all others are either unofficial or complete scams
  • you do not get sent a confirmation letter for your practical in the post
  • you can rearrange your test a maximum of three times
  • after that, you’ll have to cancel and rebook it
  • you do not need your instructor’s ADI number (unless the’ve told you to use it) – leave that section blank

The reason for limiting the number of changes to three is people keep moving tests back, then back a bit more, then back a bit more… when they were obviously never going to be ready to take it in the first place. Repeated changes mess up other people’s chances of getting bookings and create administrative issues at the DSA (there’s a tendency to forget that there is more than just one person taking their test on any given day).

Contrary to what you might otherwise be told, the “three moves” rule is more to stop people booking tests pointlessly when they are not going to be ready no matter what driving school or driving instructor they are training with. It’s bad enough with three moves being available (relocating just one test for a single pupil is a real headache) - that’s probably why it isn’t publicised openly – but with more than three it would be total mayhem.

More test information can be found on the Information page of this blog.

Driving Test Naïvete

I was watching a discussion on a forum recently (frequented by people who are learning to drive).

One thing that has become extremely clear from reading this particular forum is that every single person who ever learns to drive apparently does so as if they are the only person ever to do it. Whenever they ask for advice, all they seem to want to hear is “you will pass” – anything else offends them.

The thread I am particularly referring to here concerns a learner who has apparently been told she “will fail [her] test in a couple of weeks”. She says:

so i’ve been having more lessons recently as my test is fast approaching but it seems to me the more lessons i have the worse i am at driving

i hate roundabouts and always mess up on them
i’m rubbish at bay and parallel parking and my instructor always says things such as ‘you will fail badly for that’ i’m pretty sure he hasn’t taught me anything and my parents have taught me more than him. He just sits reading his magazines in the lesson or booking someone elses driving test whilst i’m driving!

any tips for the test? and is the test 1hr or 40 mins?

The comment about her driving instructor reading magazines and taking phone bookings has attracted the expected crop of “experts” (including a driving instructor), who obviously believe every single word without question.

Let me just point something out here. Out of the many hundred of pupils I have taught who have had lessons previously, not one of them has ever answered my question about why they left their last instructor by saying something like:

Well, I messed him around, sometimes couldn’t pay, missed lessons, cancelled at the last minute all the time, and he got fed up with me and told me he couldn’t teach me anymore.

However, I have got rid of loads like that – some of whom I’d picked up after they left their last instructor - and a casual glance at any ADI forum reveals that such pupils are common. And another thing that instructor forums reveal is that stories like this one are also very common:

My last instructor was too friendly, too nasty, shouted at me, turned up late, finished lessons early, didn’t turn up at all, cancelled lessons at the last minute, used his mobile, made comments about other drivers, was racist, didn’t teach me anything, etc.

The number of driving instructors who believe all this stuff without question is huge. They are eager to believe it – I think that’s the main problem.

But back to the original quote – the person adds in a later reply:

thanks guys for your comments

i think i will do the test and see what happens
my instructor does in fact have a high pass rate (god knows how) and ALWAYS brags about it ……maybe i’m just terrible at driving

it’s little things such as not enough mirrors, or signalling too late that i think will mess up my chances
but thanks guys!

nervous
and the show and tell me questions i hate so much!

Mmmm. Maybe it isn’t the instructor, then. But she asked for tips for the test. Well, let’s look at the issues:

  • can’t do roundabouts
  • can’t bay park
  • can’t parallel park
  • misses “little things” like mirror checks and signalling in time
  • has problems with the show-me-tell-me questions

(and let’s not assume she’s an A1 expert at everything else here, because the signs don’t seem to point to it), my advice would be to cancel it, and rebook it after you learn to drive properly. It isn’t rocket science working that one out. Unfortunately, though, such common sense advice is clearly the wrong answer.

The correct answer is provided by someone right at the end of the thread:

Don’t worry! I was told I’d fail 2 days before and I passed

So there you go. Don’t waste your money actually learning – just get someone to tell you you won’t pass, and everything will be all right!

But anyway, the original poster seems happy with any sickly-sweet replies geeing her up – even though she clearly isn’t ready. I can already imagine whose fault it will be if she fails.

Update: And the poster in question passed. So, it just goes to show, doesn’t it?

Common Sense: The Workington Definition

Well, they can’t let it go. I’ve mentioned the ridiculous situation regarding the Workington Theory Test Centre in a number of posts. Most recently, the most incomprehensible logic had been used to decide to keep it open (it runs at a loss, remember, and only does about 3,000 out of a capacity 15,000 tests each year).

Shaun the SheepThe Times & Star can’t resist another dig – more of a case of another spadeful out of the hole it keeps digging for itself – by calling it a “common sense” decision. They wouldn’t know common sense if it cocked its leg against them.

I say again: Workington Theory Test Centre runs at a financial loss. It is only operating at 20% capacity and employs three full time staff (if I remember correctly).

It’s also hard to see why the proposed closure should become such a cause célèbre amongst driving instructors… until you see that the petition was organised by the West Cumbria Driving Instructors Association. Those last three words say it all.

Get one over on the DSA, eh?