Category - Driving Tests

DSA Alert: Examiner Strikes In February And March 2013

The fossils in the PCS union have got yet more strikes on the way – three in quick succession, this time (it’s like when children get more and more naughty until someone takes notice of them).

Planned dates are 1st and 15th of February and 1st March – all in the afternoon. This time, though, the first date covers England, Scotland, and Wales, the second date just England and Scotland, and the last date just Wales (I bet the flip charts were steaming when they worked that one out).

In the link above, the DSA is correctly advising candidates to attend tests as they normally would. That’s because not all examiners are stupid enough to be in the union in the first place, and of those who are not all are THAT stupid that they will get involved in strike action. I should also point out that the further north you travel within the UK, the more stupid people apparently get (based on the statistics for test cancellations the last few strikes).

UPDATE: The one on 1st February has been cancelled. No doubt so it can be rearranged for a more inconvenient time for candidates.

Chalfont Drive Test Centre: Move Is Postponed

This is an old story. As of September 2014, tests are conducted at Colwick, Beeston (near the train station), Clifton (on the Trent University campus), and Watnall (the old LGV testing station).

Chalfont Drive stopped doing tests in 2013. Clarendon Street (the Trent University campus in the city centre) ceased conducting tests in late August 2014 a few weeks prior to Watnall commencing operations.


UPDATE: From 1st March 2013 tests will be conducted from two temporary addresses – NOT FROM CHALFONT DRIVE.

UPDATE: From 27 June 2013 tests will be conducted from the new Beeston Test Centre. This is the new and permanent location.

The story below is from the archives.


I can’t say I’m surprised. It was reported in November last year that Chalfont Drive Test Centre was closing and moving to Beeston from the start of February 2013. A move had been on the cards for several years.

I reported earlier this month how the manager at Chalfont Drive had had to request that ADIs keep away from the proposed new site, as these idiots had been gridlocking the place in their desire to conduct lessons less than half a mile from whichever test centre their pupils will be taking their tests at. This was apparently jeopardising the deal, for which planning permission was not yet granted.

This email alert from the DSA notes that the move is now postponed. The test centre has been given leave to remain at Chalfont Drive “throughout February”.

The second section of the email is interesting. It says:

Longer term plan

Our longer term plan is still to open a new centre in the Nottingham area. We’ll let you know as soon as we’re able to confirm the operational date and details of the new test centre.

Reading between the lines, the new test centre ISN’T going to be in Beeston. I wonder if those prats who kept going down there are pleased with themselves. Even if it wasn’t they who contributed to the proposed deal in Beeston falling through, their lessons down there were an absolute waste of their pupils’ time (based on their own reasons for going there in the first place).

If the DSA has any sense at all, they won’t announce where the test centre is going to be this time around. Just move it, then tell people where it is and let them whine about it afterwards.

When (and where) will the new centre open?

We don’t know. This time, the DSA probably won’t tell anyone until the deal is done. And who can blame them?

EDIT: See the two updates at the top of this archived story.

Scammy Test Booking Sites Get Comeuppance

This adjudication from the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) is interesting.

All of these test booking services (all the ones I have seen, anyway) are absolute scum. If they were 100% honest, even the good ones would say:

We are not the official booking site, and we have nothing at all to do with the DSA. We charge you extra for the test we book for you, and for that you get access to online training materials.

The problem is they don’t. They deliberately make themselves look like the DSA’s site, and any disclaimer is carefully hidden as deeply as possible so that those using the The old DSA test booking logoservice have almost zero chance of spotting it before they’ve entered their credit card details. No one reads the fine print in detail, and even if they did they probably wouldn’t understand it. You’re talking about 17-year old kids, and the pond life operating such sites knows that full well.

In this particular case, Book Your Practical Test Online Ltd. (BYPT) tried to squirm out of the complaint by arguing that their site didn’t look like the DSA one, because the DSA “did not use orange and white on their home page”. Fortunately, ASA were fully aware that until GOV.UK came along, that’s EXACTLY what the DSA site looked like. Orange and white. BYPT even tried to argue that their logo had an arrow that was different to the one the DSA used – trying to avoid the issue of why they’d even got a logo that was so similar to the DSA/Directgov one. Oh yes, they knew exactly what they were doing.

Fortunately, so did ASA, and it upheld the complaint in full.

Halfords To Commence Hosting Of Driving Tests

An email alert from the DSA says that Halfords has been given the “green light for driving tests”. I wish they’d word the headlines properly so that it doesn’t lead to confusion!

Halfords LogoHalfords is NOT going to be providing driving tests, and the spotty oiks who hang around out back smoking roll-ups (and who all have modded Corsas parked outside) are NOT going to be climbing inside the car with you to decide whether you pass or fail. It will be DSA examiners just like it is now.

What is happening is that Halfords is going to be used as the start and finish point for driving tests (instead of it being a purpose-built test centre). It is commencing from Tuesday 5 February in Wellingborough.

All that the email says is that other branches around the country are expected to be offering tests in the coming months. It doesn’t say ALL of them, and it doesn’t say when.

I can’t see the need for Nottingham to do it, for example, when it already has two test centres (as well as something in the pipeline concerning “Clifton Campus” – part of Trent University).

Know Your Left And Right

I heard someone recently criticising their pupils’ education because they sometimes got their lefts and rights mixed up.

I encounter left-right confusion frequently when I’m teLeft or Rightaching, but never – for even a moment – have I attributed it to the standard of someone’s education. In fact, it is a known – but not completely understood – scientific phenomenon (it’s also one of the symptoms of dyslexia, though not necessarily one experienced by all dyslexics).

Kids are taught their lefts and rights from the earliest age, and when they turn 17 – unless they’re dyslexic and this is one of their symptoms – they know exactly where left and right are.

Indeed, when I was a child I had no problem at all with telling left from right, or in being able to identify one or the other instantly, and I don’t have a problem now. But for about 4 or 5 years in my late teens and early 20s I went through a phase where I often had to think hard about which was which when challenged to do so for some reason. As a typical teenager, it really had me worried because I knew there was an issue where there wasn’t one before. But it disappeared as suddenly as I’d noticed it appear. In later years I have always attributed it to the changes that occur as people mature physically. I am not dyslexic in any way, either.

The problem, as distinct from dyslexia, apparently affects around 20-25% of the population. Even if you leave out my own theory of it affecting young people more than older ones, that still means a quarter of your pupils are likely to encounter difficulties.

It can be a particular problem on driving lessons and driving tests. Why? Well, if someone is just driving to Tesco or to see their gran, they usually know where they’re going and don’t need to think about right or left – it’s just “this way” or “that way”. But on lessons and tests directional instructions are given, and the driver then has to translate “left” or “right” into real actions. That’s when the left-right confusion kicks in.

The one thing to remember is that no matter how badly someone is affected by this left-right confusion, it is not terminal as far as learning to drive is concerned.

There are all kinds of things the instructor can do or advise to try to help them. Here are just a few:

  • When you hold your left thumb and forefinger out straight, they make an ‘L’ shape
  • Draw a big dot on the left hand remember that that’s LEFT
  • Actually write ‘L’ and ‘R’ on your hands
  • Put ‘L’ and ‘R’ stickers on the dashboard (or the mirror)
  • The ADI can use gestures as well as the words ‘left’ and ‘right’ when giving directions
  • The examiner can do this, too, so ask them to use a hand gesture if you think it will help on your test
  • Stay calm and take your time when making decisions

Some of those are also advised by the British Dyslexia Association. The mirror one came from a reader.

But one thing you should never do is assume that the person in question is somehow lacking or deficient – educationally or any other way.

Left/right confusion in older people

Someone found the blog on that search term. I am not aware of a specific problem developing as people get older (that is, as they pass from their 20s to their 30s or 40s). However, confusion and slower mental response can occur when people become much older (60s and 70s onwards), and I guess left/right confusion may be one of the possible symptoms of that.

Bear in mind that some 30-somethings can be mentally older than some octogenarians, and there are no sharp divisions. Everyone is different.

If it is becoming an issue that worries you, see your GP. That’s what they’re there for. It’s unlikely, but there may be something else wrong that can be treated.

Irish Quotas On The Cards?

OK, I admit I’m stirring it with that title, but hot on the heels of that last story from Ireland comes this one announcing proposed changes to the Irish system.

The bit at the bottom is bound to stir up a hornets nest:

Currently, test pass rates vary hugely from centre to centre, with almost half of all learners failing the test.

For example, in 2011, 68 per cent of drivers passed the test in Ennis, Co Clare, but just 40 per cent passed in Kilkenny and in Rathgar, Dublin.

While the RSA defends the variation, it is understood next year’s review will tackle the issue “to ensure uniformity of the driving test”.

Oh dear! They even put it in inverted commas, so they know already what will happen. Let’s just hope someone in Ireland understands the true implications of varying pass rates and doesn’t just end up blaming it on the examiners. And let’s also hope they understand the implications of foisting variances on Irish examiners employed by a system which is less than two years old, and which replaced total anarchy.

Giving Learners A Chance – Irish Style

This came in on the newsfeeds. It’s a letter to the Irish Times from someone who doesn’t have a clue.

It’s worth pointing out that from what I am told by my Irish pupils, until last year the standard way of obtaining a licence in Ireland was to get a provisional, take one driving lesson, and then drive for the rest of your life without fear of any legal comeback whatsoever. And I’m not making that up. It was possible to get a full licence, but it didn’t require much effort (and the “effort” wasn’t necessarily the kind that involved passing a test). Documentation was almost non-existent.

Ireland was forced into line by the EU – which was a good thing, because in the early part of this century, tax breaks meant that there was a lot of Irish labour over here, and being members of the EU meant that they could drive in the UK with no restrictions. The overall standard demonstrated was absolutely appalling. Again, I’m not making that up – though I’m sure that crazy woman from Manchester who wrote to me a while back is hyperventilating over the fact that I have said it.

I’ve reported before on the typical attitude of older Irish drivers. In that story from 2011, a 61-year old failed to get a test fail reversed in court (it was his seventh appeal against being failed), and his defence was based solely on the fact that he had “been driving for 44 years”.

As of April 2011, anyone obtaining a learner permit in Ireland for the first time is required to do mandatory training, and must be accompanied at all times by a qualified driver who has held their licence for at least 2 years.

Anyway, the letter I mentioned runs as follows:

Sir, – Your Front Page article (December 11th) states there are 271,000 learner drivers in this country. That a recent Garda operation found 50 per cent of learner drivers were driving unaccompanied is hardly surprising.

Why do learner drivers feel it is necessary to break the law? Perhaps most of them have no choice. It is rare that a job is to be found within walking or cycling distance of one’s home. Outside the cities, public transport is minimal. Even in the cities, public transport is often not suitable. A qualified driver may not be available, or a lift with someone going your way. The job may not pay enough to justify renting a dwelling closer to it.

Instead of criminalising learner drivers with penalty points and €1,000 fines, it might be better if the Road Safety Authority produced a TV series on how to be a better and safer driver, which would be shown regularly on TV and the internet. Then anyone, of any age, at any time, could revise their driving skills. Keep the compulsory driving lessons. Also, perhaps all learner drivers could be restricted to a maximum of 65km/h, with penalty points awarded for breaking that particular law or non-display of L-plates.

Finally, something which the Government might understand. If you can’t get to work, how can you take up that job and pay tax to the Government? If 271,000 decided not to drive, that’s 271,000 fewer road taxes to be collected, 271,000 fewer insurance policies to be sold, less excise duty and VAT at 91 cent per litre. God only knows how much would be lost to the exchequer.

There is a problem with driving standards in this country, but criminalising and beating down learner drivers starting out in life is not the most effective way of going about it.

I have had a full driving licence since 1993 and am not writing merely because I am a learner driver. – Yours, etc,

What this guy is advocating is a return to the old system! To let learners drive unsupervised for as long as they want – but to produce a TV series to “educate” them by way of a smokescreen.

He completely fails to understands that the reason the new Irish system is not being adhered to is precisely because of the cowboy operation it used to be. He is the worst kind of modern-day, namby-pamby liberal – the kind that gets whatever country they live in into a mess to begin with by trying to remove barriers on grounds of “rights” and “civil liberties”. The reason so many are flouting the law is because that’s the kind of people they are! We have that sort over here, too, and they regularly appear on the cop shows on TV.

One suspects that in spite of his last sentence and disclaimer over any vested interest, there just might be someone he is thinking of when he writes what he has written.

Let’s Believe Some Rumours

THinge and Bracket don't always work just as a duohe universe was formed about 15 billion years ago. About 2 minutes after that, certain people began to disagree with everything the DSA said, and have kept on repeating this disagreement at every conceivable opportunity up to the present day.

The latest example involves the rumour that from some time next year the DSA is going to remove the option to book your theory test by telephone.

As you can imagine, those whose existence stretches back beyond the age of the dinosaurs, and whose only purpose in life is to fill their colostomy bags at the mere mention of “DSA”, are far more prepared to believe a rumour of this sort – probably heard from another fossil in the test centre waiting room – than they are to worry about simple things like facts.

In fact, if you go to the DSA’s Facebook page, they have made it abundantly clear that they are revamping their online systems, and have stated in black and white that people who cannot or will not use the internet will still be able to book by telephone.

Hold on. You mean there are people who refuse to use online services? Absolutely there are – and many of them are the same fossil artefacts I mentioned at the start of this story, whose repetitive opposition to the DSA becomes so tiresome.

The DSA has made one fundamental mistake in my opinion. On it’s Facebook page it says:

We’ll be encouraging everyone who can use digital services independently to do so. When people phone us in future, we’ll first offer them help to use the digital service. If they are unable to for any reason, they’ll be able to complete their transaction over the phone as they do now.

This doesn’t involve the total capitulation that the fossil-brains are always looking for, and so no doubt they will continue to whinge and whine about it as though the original accusation were true. We shall see.

For everyone else out there, it’s far simpler to book online than it is by phone anyway. If you can get online, don’t be foolish – use it to book your tests. If you genuinely cannot get online then you can still book by phone (bearing in  mind that you may have a long wait if the lines are busy).

Using Your Own Car On Your Driving Test

I think I’ve covered this before, but you can use your own car for your driving test as long as it meets certain basic requirements.

Will I be marked down if I use my own car?

Someone found the blog on that search term. That’s why I wrote this post.

The short answer is no. Absolutely not. As long as your car meets the requirements in the link I just gave you are absolutely free to use your own car for your test, and it will not count against you.

However… people who use their own car are more likely not to have taken lessons from a proper instructor. They may even be using their own car because their instructor said they weren’t ready and refused to let them use the tuition vehicle, Like it or not (and that crazy woman from Manchester who wrote to me a while back probably won’t), it is a fact that a lot of non-UK nationals turn up for test in their own cars for reasons connected with what I said, above.

From what I’ve witnessed myself, some of these cars look like they shouldn’t be on the road in the first place. They are often old, filthy inside, with dirty windows, dents, and even home-made L plates (when it costs less than a fiver to buy a pair). And I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve seen examiners having to go back inside the test centre to get a spare mirror because the car in question hasn’t got one for the examiner to use. Hardly a good start on test day, is it?

If I were an examiner, I would find it hard to remain unbiased if I had to sit in a car which stank of cigarette smoke or was filthy inside. Examiners are supposed to remain completely objective, of course, but who knows how they will feel in reality: so it’s best not to tempt fate.

If you plan on using your own car, make damned sure you are really ready for your test, and clean the thing from top to bottom, inside and out before you turn up at the test centre.

Suitable Cars For Driving Tests

Someone recently asked which cars are suitable for use on the driving test – specifically, is there an approved list of acceptable cars? The DVSA website on GOV.UK gives the best answer.

Basically, there isn’t a list of cars you can use, but there are several named ones which you can’t. Those deemed unsuitable are usually classed based on the all-round visibility, so many convertibles are automatically at a disadvantage, as are some vans or van-like cars with side panels instead of windows, and super-minis like the Toyota iQ with strange body styling.

The best option for anyone who is unsure is to contact the DVSA on the number given in that link. This goes for both test candidates and driving instructors looking for a suitable tuition vehicle.