Category - Driving Tests

Which Test Centre is Easiest?

Note that this is an old article, and the test centres in Nottingham have changed. We now (in 2022, and since 2018) have Colwick, Chilwell, and Watnall. Chalfont Drive closed down several years ago.

A reader asked this interesting question about test centres. It is also a common search term used to find the blog.

In Nottingham we have two test centres – Colwick MPTC and Chalfont Drive. Colwick replaced the original Gedling and West Bridgford centres, and it was the first one to include the bay parking exercise.

The commencement of tests at Colwick was precisely the time when the rumour started that Chalfont Drive test centre was easier, and that rumour persists to this day. But why?

The bay park really was at the heart of the matter. It caught many instructors out – they didn’t know how to teach it – and there was a mass exodus to Chalfont to avoid having to do so. The waiting times there increased dramatically – at one point it was over 8 weeks compared with less than a fortnight at Colwick. People might not believe this, but it is true.

Another “problem” with Colwick was the test centre itself. The entrance is a long driveway with a sharp dog-leg bend. Traffic is single file on this bend, and there is a priority Give Way in favour of those leaving the centre. In the first few months it was so bad that the centre manager had to send out a letter explaining to instructors how to use it! More than one had taught their pupils to keep left, resulting in close – very close – encounters with the fence. On one occasion not long after it opened, tests had to be cancelled because a learner got their car lodged on the gates!

Colwick MPTC is also slap in the middle of an industrial estate, and during the day there are quite a few lorries driving around it.

A lot of ADIs also opposed Colwick just on principle. It was the old story of resentment towards change. Gedling and West Bridgford were in nightmare locations – in busy town centres with almost no parking and, just before their closure, council-bred traffic wardens camping outside just to slap tickets on learner cars.But people were familiar with them, and whinged openly about the extra mileage (Colwick is 3.5 miles from West Bridgford and 2.9 miles from Gedling).

Putting all this together – resenting change and trying to justify it, not being able to handle bay park, lorries, or the nasty entrance – ADIs had to sell their new-found preference for Chalfont to their pupils. And that’s where the rumours started.

Well, let’s take a look at the facts. This link [out of date, so removed] provides some actual data concerning pass rates at both test centres (and all others in the UK). At the time of writing Colwick actually has a higher pass rate than Chalfont, but the difference is statistically insignificant and for all practical purposes Colwick has the same pass rate as Chalfont.

Do they do bay parking at Chalfont Drive test centre?

Short answer, “no”. However, it is still on the syllabus and if Chalfont examiners suddenly had somewhere to do it, then they could ask a candidate to do it on their test – and technically they wouldn’t have to give anyone advanced warning.

A good ADI will teach his pupils how to bay park because they’re going to have to do it once they pass their tests. A good learner won’t be trying to choose which test centre to do their test at based on avoiding the bay park.

To be honest, the bay park is probably the easiest manoeuvre of the lot! The only people who think otherwise are those who can’t teach it, and those who are hung up about anything to do with “parking” and having other cars next to them.

Learn how to do it, then it doesn’t matter whether Chalfont does it or not.

Note that this is an old article, and the test centres in Nottingham have changed. We now (in 2022, and since 2018) have Colwick, Chilwell, and Watnall. Chalfont Drive closed down several years ago.

Test Pass: 11/6/2011

Tick!Well done to Bhaira, who passed today with 5 driver faults. Well-deserved, and will fit in nicely with the need to travel to different hospitals now you’ve graduated.

I totted up my actual figures, and this now makes it 23 passes out of 28 tests since December 29. That’s a pass rate of 82%. My figures weren’t bad anyway, but two long runs of passes this year made me sit up and take notice.

Test Pass: 8/6/2011

Tick!Well done to Naomi, who passed today with 5 driver faults.

This was a brilliant result considering that she hates driving, and after her first attempt was scuppered by nerves, she really put in a super performance on this one. She said that she felt even worse this time, but that the adrenalin kept her focused.

Because of what happened last time, I sat in on this test to give moral support. It was obvious to start with that the nerves were fighting for control, but they lost the battle as the test progressed. There were a few hairy moments – like trying (and, incredibly, succeeding – albeit with a smell of burning clutch) to do a hill start on probably the steepest hill in Nottingham in 2nd gear (the examiner joked about it at the end); and then where that idiot builder on the same hill was blocking the road, appeared to be having trouble getting up it himself, then waved us through (but you’d have had to go on the pavement to do so), then decided not to let you go after all. But you dealt with it all perfectly.

So that’s ALL those who have taken a test this year now passed. And the current run of consecutive passes continues.

Driving Tests Rigged… Quotas?

A reader sent me this link to a story in This Is Croydon Today.

To start with, it’s yet another freedom of information (FOI) muck-raking exercise by a second-rate journalist in a third-rate newspaper (The Croydon Advertiser). It appears to be a case of monkey-see-monkey-do, as they have copied exactly what a load of other cheap local rags have done and looked to see if anyone in the area has taken a large number of tests before finally passing (they found one: 23 attempts).

In the absence of anything else worth writing about along these lines, they have then made an apparent attempt to suggest that DVSA is trying to fulfil quotas by suggesting that learners are more likely to fail at the end of the month than at the beginning. The hack responsible bases this, and all his other claims, on test results for a single 3-month period covering October-December 2010. But then they go on to say:

Pass rates at both centres were highest in the middle of the month (between the 11th and 20th) and lowest at the end (on or after the 21st), with a five per cent gap in success at the Croydon test centre, in Canterbury Road, Broad Green.

Well, excuse me a minute. If they are highest in the middle, that suggests they are lower at the beginning as well as the end. Not just the end, as the article suggests.

AbacusThere are lies, damned lies, and reporters who haven’t got a clue about statistics – but who still go ahead and try to interpret them. This unnamed reporter is a prime example.

I wrote in this article (September 2010) that examiners DO NOT have quotas to fulfil. However, whether or not individual examiners set themselves quotas so they don’t deviate from the local average is another matter entirely. I’m sure some of them do it, but it doesn’t affect the overall situation that much.

As I’ve said before, if an examiner is doing their job properly then they will have a pass rate that is close to the average without having to try to fudge it. If they ARE fudging it, then the internal system the DVSA is using will eventually sniff it out because they clearly AREN’T doing their jobs properly. The way for that to happen is if people appeal when they disagree with a result.

But having said that, the reasons for failure are pretty straightforward. Yes, there are hard routes and easier ones, but pupils manage to screw up big time on the easy ones often enough, so it stands to reason they will screw up even more on the harder ones. I can honestly say I have never disagreed with a result, and only a handful of my hundreds of pupils have – and even then, I didn’t: they made a genuine mistake and failed for it.

These idiots who don’t understand statistics seem to expect the pass rate to be 100% all of the time. One single fail and they’re over it like a rash.

The only thing I would say is that some examiners play it by the book, whereas others use a bit of commonsense. So a pupil who brushes the kerb when turning left might get automatically failed by the rigid examiner, no matter how good the rest of the drive was. The sensible examiner might reason that the rest of the drive was good so he’ll overlook that particular fault.

Do driving examiners fail people deliberately?

The short answer is NO. They do not. They are not told to fail people as part of any quota.

However, there are corrupt people in all walks of life, and as I explained above, it is possible that some examiners – a tiny percentage – fiddle their pass rates in order to avoid being “told off” by their managers.

Do examiners “fix” test results?

No.

Test Pass: 1/6/2011

Tick!I’ve not had a test for several weeks now, so well done to Louise, who passed with 8 driver faults today. That puts my pass rate for the year even higher now – about 80% from around 30 tests. It also means everyone (except for one) who has taken a test this year has now passed.

This was the pupil with the talking/concentration problem and mouthful of chewing gum I mentioned a week or two ago. Still, at least we won’t be falling out any more over why rolling back on hills is still bad, even when no one is behind you (and you hadn’t looked BEFORE you did it). Or looking for your rogue chewing gum whilst in the middle of doing a turn in the road is wrong, even if you AREN’T doing it in the middle of the A52 (and people WERE waiting at the time).

A few months ago I had someone whose test pass made me feel like I might have opened Pandora’s box lid a little too wide and let something out. As I said to Louise, this time I felt like I’d taken a pee in the box, shaken it up, dropped it off a high building, and THEN opened the lid completely. And I’m sure I heard a peal of thunder from a clear blue sky about 30 seconds after you came back to the test centre and that big smile appeared on your face. Joking, of course!

Test Pass: 10/5/2011

Tick!Well done to Danielle, who passed first time this morning with 10 driver faults.

She was nervous as hell, and still negative even after she’d passed! Almost everyone “thinks” they have failed, but if they haven’t there’s no point pursuing the matter – but they always do! I guess it is the nerves that also make some people seem as if they don’t care that they have passed.

Anyway, a good result. I told you you could do it.

And something I only realised later… she did it in 17½ hours of lessons, never having driven before. She’d managed to do some private practice when she was home from college, but this is still a new record.

DSA Warning: Test Booking Rip Off Sites

Old story from 2011. DSA is now DVSA, but the warning is still valid. Go to gov.uk and book your test there.


An email from the DSA:

Unofficial driving test booking websites: advice for customers

Directgov is the only official driving test booking website.

Other websites offer driving test booking services, but might charge extra administrative fees on top of the Driving Standards Agency’s (DSA) fee. Those websites are not run by or connected to DSA or Directgov.

DSA recommends that all learner drivers book their driving test through the official booking service on Directgov by visiting direct.gov.uk/drivingtest

If you have used an unofficial website

DSA gets complaints from customers who have used unofficial booking websites. In most cases these websites are doing nothing illegal. This means that DSA’s powers to respond may be limited.

If you have used an unofficial booking website, you might have seven working days to cancel your order and get all your money back. However, this will depend on the terms and conditions of the website you used.

You can find more information about your consumer rights on Directgov. You can also use template letters to complain to businesses. Each letter includes details of the law that you want the trader to follow.

  • Internet, mail order and telephone shopping
  • Making a complaint – what to do first
  • Create a complaint letter from a template

What DSA is doing about unofficial booking websites

DSA takes consumer protection very seriously. So, DSA is:

a) protecting its trademarks to make sure they are not:

  • used to advertise unofficial booking sites in search engine results
  • used as part of website addresses for unofficial booking websites

b) asking the Advertising Standards Authority to make sure unofficial booking websites are following the rules in the UK Code of Non-broadcast Advertising, Sales Promotion and Direct Marketing

c) asking local Trading Standards to investigate those unofficial booking websites that appear to be misleading consumers

What DSA is doing to promote the official booking service

DSA makes improvements based on learner drivers’ feedback to promote the official booking service. For example DSA:

  • made sure that the official Directgov website pages appear at the top of search engine results where possible
  • created videos showing how to use the practical test booking service – videos are being developed for the theory test booking service too
  • reminded learner drivers on Twitter and Facebook about using the official booking service on Directgov

What approved driving instructors (ADIs) can do

DSA is encouraging ADIs to remind their trainees to use the official booking service by visiting direct.gov.uk/drivingtest.

If ADIs run their own websites they can also link to the official booking service. The best links to put on your website are:

  • direct.gov.uk/booktheorytest – Book an official DSA driving theory test
  • direct.gov.uk/bookpracticaltest – Book an official DSA practical driving test

There is also a Facebook page about it.

I’ve had the proper links on here for some time on my Information Page, along with a lot of other useful stuff.

I was talking to a pupil the other day – one who had taken their theory test before coming to me – and he reckoned he’d paid £70 for his test! It costs £31 through DSA – and I charge £6.50 for a copy of Driving Test Success (DVD ROM), which is the ONLY thing you need in order to revise for the test. if you pay any more than that you’ve been had.

Test Pass: 6/5/2011

Tick!Well done to Joe, who passed today first time with 4 driver faults.

I’ve never come across anyone so quiet, so it was hard to gauge whether he was happy about his result or not. I think he was.

Incidentally, one of his faults was for being in the right hand lane inappropriately. There’s an article coming on that subject…

Test Pass: 4/5/2011

Tick!Well done to Daniel, who passed today with 7 driver faults.

I sat in on this one, and winced when you did that parallel park – it wasn’t the method we normally use, but it got you in far enough to be able to do a final correction… but then when the examiner asked “are you happy with that?” I could have killed you when you said “yes”. You had to reverse in order to get out again, and he was giving you a lifeline to fix it! Still, it was only a driver fault.

And when we came round the Colwick Loop Road roundabout at the end, you definitely followed that bloody learner in front who also went needlessly into the right hand lane. I have never let you do that on any roundabout without having a go at you about it, and you knew it was wrong once you’d done it! That learner was also on test and had already pulled over on a bus stop (she failed) so she was hardly a good example to follow.

Joking aside, though, a good result. You drove really well. And it also means my pass rate for the year is 70% from nearly 30 tests.

Amateur Detectives Abound

I wrote recently about how a third-rate Coventry “newsletter” had discovered how to use the freedom of information act to dig out pointless personal facts about private citizens and then start waffling on about them.

Now, another one in Eastbourne, Sussex has learnt how to do it and reports that a female learner from that area has failed for the 25th time. Ironically, it says she suffered “the heartache” of failing – I wonder if they think they made her feel better now they’ve dug it out into the open? They mention the centre involved, and I suspect they are doing everything possible to identify her by name. It’s what newspapers – even pretend ones like this – do for a living.

They go on to mention that 109 drivers have failed at least 11 tests each. They mention that a man has failed 22 times, and another has failed 19 times. They also mention that someone failed their theory test for the 35th time, and that another passed it at the 33rd attempt.

As always, they finish with:

Do you know any of the serial failing test drivers? Call the newsdesk on 01273 544519 or email news@theargus.co.uk

How low can they go?