Category - Driving Tests

More Cancelled Tests: December 2010

As I mentioned previously, I had a test cancelled last week (only had one during the snow so far). It was on Saturday and it was cancelled on the Thursday before.

DSA LogoI do not think any tests were carried out from Colwick last week according to the examiner I spoke with.

This week I have FOUR tests booked. Two tomorrow and two on Thursday.

I called Colwick MPTC this morning and all of today is already cancelled. My 9.07 tomorrow is also cancelled (the examiner said the first two of the day are already off), though I have got to call back tomorrow to check on my 12.38. I am not optimistic, with the temperature being -9ºC again at the moment.

Let me stress again: DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. YOU MUST CALL THE TEST CENTRE USING THE NUMBER ON YOUR CONFIRMATION LETTER OR EMAIL. THEY NEED TO KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO TURN UP OTHERWISE THEY WILL ASSUME YOU DIDN’T AND YOU’LL LOSE YOUR MONEY (OR GET INTO A BIG ARGUMENT YOU COULD EASILY AVOID JUST WITH A SIMPLE CALL).

Rip Off Britain: Trainee Instructors

This is a very old story from 2010.

I caught an episode of Rip Off Britain on BBC One this morning, and it was laying into trainee driving instructors. You can watch the episode in question on BBC iPlayer for a limited time.

This episode focuses on transport, though it is worth bearing in mind that Rip Off Britain is one of those BBC shows aimed at old(er) people who fancy a moan about something.

At 2:00 into the programme there is a segment about the average comprehensive insurance quote being over £1,000, and then it homes in on an old couple who contacted the show about “their grandson, Josh”. They say “he’s a good boy”, so it must be the insurance companies who have it wrong, eh? Just as a reality check, my insurance is less than £300 a year on my private car, and has been for many years.

Grandad became Josh’s driving instructor (they are seen moving off and driving around without any L plates at all on display). And Grandad’s logic about how those who have never had a claim (his learner grandson) shouldn’t be penalised, when the statistics show that 17 year old males (like his learner grandson) are a major risk is seriously flawed. And keep showing said grandson on the Go-kart track racing around is just further reason why 17 year old males ARE such a risk. Attitude.

I wish old people would get it through their heads: just because he/she is YOUR grandson (or granddaughter) doesn’t mean he/she is different to anyone else’s grandson (or granddaughter). He or she is more likely to be the same as most other people of the same age group.

At 22:00 into the programme, they have a segment on “scam” theory test websites (they have a thing about scam sites, and educating older people to use the Internet wisely). I’ve mentioned these sites on this blog previously.

In a nutshell, don’t book your theory (or practical) test through anything other than the official DSA (now, DVSA) website. There’s not much more you can say – and it doesn’t matter how “unfair” it is (according to one of the interviewees). What those websites are doing is not illegal, although it is morally questionable.

The segment on trainee instructors/PDIs is at 29:56 into the programme. Apparently, 1 in 10 learner drivers in the UK is being taught by a PDI, and it costs “most people around £1,600” to learn to drive. The show then homes in on a young girl who signed up with “a well known school” (I note that her offside wing mirror was gaffer-taped on) to learn.

Her tale centres on her instructor not being professional, using his mobile phone, and not turning up sometimes. She claims she didn’t learn much and her confidence was low (as you will see, it turns out her instructor was a PDI).

Now, I don’t want to take anything away from what she says, but all those things can happen with a fully-qualified instructor. And they do happen.

The programme’s main thrust, though, is the fact that learners pay full lesson prices to train with PDIs. There is also the claim made that PDIs are told to try and conceal the “pink” badge from their pupils with one large school, at least.

It is made clear that charging full price is not against any rules or laws, and it appears that all schools who use PDIs do charge full price. The AA, who only uses qualified ADIs, claims that you’re 25% less likely to pass your driving test if you’ve been taught by a PDI. BSM reckons that pupils taught by its PDIs have a pass rate 10% above the “DSA national average”.

The young girl “reckons” that schools are responsible for letting people know they are being trained by a PDI and for charging appropriately.

What puzzles me is how much they should charge. Half price keeps being mentioned, but why? Why “half price”? If you get taught by someone who turns out to be crap just because they are a PDI, why stop at half price? Why not totally free? After all, over 70% of them won’t make it to become ADIs anyway, so they will always be substandard in the end.

At 35:20 they carry out an interview with the DIA. Basically:

  • ask to see the badge of your instructor: if it’s green, he’s qualified; if it’s pink, he’s a trainee
  • ask his grade: 5 or 6 is good
  • there is nothing wrong with the PDI system as such
  • it isn’t properly supervised. THAT’S the problem
  • driving schools shouldn’t be charging the full rate for lessons with a PDI

I have my own views. I didn’t go via the PDI route, but I know a lot of people who did and who became ADIs using it. I find that a lot of ADIs change their tune once they qualify – they might do the PDI route, or use the hated Red Driving School, and yet even before the examiner’s signature has dried on their Part 3 pass certificate they’re at Red’s throat and vehemently anti-PDI or anti-anyone else wanting to become ADIs.

I have always been wary of the PDI route, because as I mentioned earlier, with only around 10% of people who set out to become ADIs making it (less than 30% of those who get to Part 3 pass that), PDIs teaching learners just doesn’t make sense. And yes, it isn’t supervised properly, so many PDIs end up using the pink badge as a way of making money and not learning – which is totally against what it is supposed to be for.

Edit: I notice this is cropping up on various forums now. Some ADIs are wetting themselves over it – but they all fail to appreciate that what the programme was trying to show (i.e. charging full price for trainee instructors) is not what they want to believe (i.e. that all PDIs are bad and any company who uses them is also bad). It’s another example of ADIs twisting every detail to fit in with their own biased opinions.

The programme didn’t specifically state that any of the learners mentioned were using BSM, but the self-styled “experts” are making all sorts of stupid claims and statements on the forums. One says:

That the first time i had seen BSM pointing out that it majority instructors are not fully qualify (sic).

I didn’t hear any of that when I watched it. Another – who apparently went down the PDI route with BSM – says:

Anyway, lets hope that the long awaited reform on pink licences is just around the corner. I guess then we will see the demise of B$M.

They’re on a different planet! And they call themselves “experts”.

Driving Tests: Bad Weather December 2010

I spoke with Colwick MPTC this morning about one of my pupils’ tests on Saturday. It is already cancelled.

DSA LogoOddly, they haven’t made a decision about tomorrow (Friday) yet – maybe down to overtime or who is covering, and how far they have to travel – but the examiner also said they have cancelled all of today (Thursday).

I asked about the last week and he said “…well, as you can imagine…” Well, I was near the test centre last night and the roads close by are extremely dangerous. And to top things off, we had another dump of snow (4-5cm) this morning and a Met Office warning of more.

Important: you must call the test centre or turn up. If you just fail to turn up they may assume you just didn’t arrive and you will lose your money.

A new date will be sent out automatically.

It amazes me that people keep trying to find out this information from everywhere other than from the horse’s mouth. CALL THE TEST CENTRE. IT’S THAT EASY TO FIND OUT. THE TEST CENTRE PHONE NUMBER IS ON THE LETTER OR EMAIL OF CONFIRMATION YOU GOT WHEN YOU BOOKED YOUR TEST.

Remember that it isn’t their fault, no matter how urgently you want to pass your test.

Test Pass: Clean Sheet

The Perfect Result!The Holy Grail of the driving instructor!

No faults at all committed during the test – well done to SG who achieved this on her test today!

I’ve never seen so many tears, either. Normally, pupils cry when they fail – but when they pass…? Well, it just goes to show how much being able to drive really means to people, and how satisying this job is once you realise that.

The examiner said she hadn’t had one for quite a while, and it was a perfect drive.

Winter Warnings

Snowflake ImagesI noticed there are three weather warnings from the Met Office in my inbox.

In order, they say:

ADVISORY of Heavy Snow for East Midlands valid from 0001 Thu 25 Nov to 2359 Thu 25 Nov

ADVISORY of Heavy Snow for East Midlands valid from 0000 Thu 25 Nov to 2359 Thu 25 Nov

ADVISORY of Heavy Snow for East Midlands valid from 0000 Sat 27 Nov to 2359 Sat 27 Nov

A further email links to a news story which suggests Nottingham might see up to 10cm of snow! This is not good – not this early in the season, anyway.

I’ve already had tests cancelled due to examiner illness, but last year all tests were cancelled for an entire 3-4 week period due to the snow.

EDIT: And now one for Sunday:

ADVISORY of Heavy Snow for East Midlands valid from 0001 Sun 28 Nov to 2359 Sun 28 Nov

Another Test Pass

Tick!

A really old post.

Well done to HH, who passed her test yesterday with 10 driver faults. She was extremely nervous – usually much better than those 10 faults would suggest – but she held it together and got her driving licence.

The examiner was really good and acknowledged that she was nervous in the debrief at the end. On the independent driving section she went off route and the examiner had to bring her back, but she handled it all correctly.

Test Pass

Tick!Well done to LR who passed this lunch time with 7 driver faults.

It's come at a good time, seeing as she is currently going through the final stages of redundancy, and being able to drive means she can expand her private business if she has to.

It's also a standing joke that she is (or was) my longest serving pupil. Initially, her mum bought her 12 hours of lessons, and she managed to eke these out for ages. She was in a low-paid job at the time, and when she got a better one things kicked off again, but then stopped as she started doing a lot of overtime.

She kept telling me that she would start again soon. She had a few more lessons, then stopped again. I remember asking her why, and she said she couldn't afford it. Then, there was this classic text exchange:

Me: What happened to all that money you were getting from overtime?

She: Shoes, shopping, handbags.

Anyway, she started up again a few months ago and this time finished it off. She admitted that she had to get the pubbing and clubbing out of her system while she was young.

And I nearly forgot: independent driving section no problem whatsoever. She asked for confirmation, apologised for doing so, and the examiner laughed and said "don't worry about it".

Test Pass

Tick!Well done SLC, who passed this morning with just 4 driver faults. A very good driver, and the car was on the drive waiting for when she got home!

No issues whatsoever with the independent driving element – the kerfuffle over that has been another storm in a teacup, and exists only in the minds of desperately inadequate ADIs (or those who represent them)!

Clamping At Colwick: Another Update

I’ve written in the last few months about clamping at Colwick MPTC (with updates after the original clamped ADI contacted me, and after I’d seen another car clamped).

Another reader has contacted me with the following:

Hi 

I was also clamped on the 11th May and had no choice but to pay for removal of my wheel clamp – £140!!! 

I rang the police as i was clamped by an irish male in a landscaping van, who looked very suspicious and unprofessional. 

The police didn’t beleive he was ‘official’ but I had no choice to pay him. He said to appeal against it, which i have sent several e-mails to Town Park Management and not had any response.

I think it is absolutely disgusting. I have parked there for years to walk my dog and are very angry at the situation.  

Hopefully, the forthcoming ban on private clamping will stop the cowboys at City Estates (and their mercenary deputies) raking in money for their own benefit.

All that crap in their letter at the test centre – claiming it is because of “Health & Safety” – is bullshit. I was down there the other night on a lesson and there were lorries and cars parked all over the place as they used to be. City Estates is just sending out their deputies when they need a few quid, and targeting people who are less likely to be able to do something about it.


 

Another Pass Today

Tick!Well done AG, who passed with 4 driver faults this afternoon.

She’s a great driver – it’s just a shame that the little Ford Ka her parents bought her has been declared off-road because the pirate-cum-dealer who sold it to them had apparently concealed the fact that there was so much rust underneath the axle could fall off at any moment. Chances are it will cost more to repair it than the car cost in the first place.