Category - Driving Tests

Driving Test Results Rigged? An Update

There’s an update to this story about an examiner who reckons he was sacked for not failing people on purpose. The updated story is in the Sunday Mail and Daily Record (Scottish news sites), and includes an interview with Jim Kerr.

It really is clear that Mr Kerr does not have a clue how statistics work, and cannot accept the simple fact that if he is passing more people than every other examiner, then either every other examiner is doing it all wrong… or he is. This is what I suggested in the previous post on this topic.

I also suggested that there was more to Mr Kerr’s story than meets the eye. It appears this is also true:

Jim, who worked at Glasgow’s Shieldhall Test Centre, said: “I was called in last March and told that, because my pass rate was higher than my colleagues’, I must be doing things wrong – and had to fail more people.

“I was shocked. I was probably the most experienced examiner at Shieldhall and possibly the only one not to have a disagreed decision in the quality control process.”

Jim, of Newlands, Glasgow, was so affected by the situation that he signed off sick with stress.

It isn’t clear whether “last March” is March 2010, or March 2009, but the wording seems to point to it being the latter. In other words, Mr Kerr has been dismissed after being off work for a prolonged period of time. This is standard company (any company) practice – you cannot just keep paying people when it is clear they are not capable of working.

The DSA makes it clear why he wasn’t dismissed:

A DSA spokesman said: “Mr Kerr’s dismissal was in no way linked to any variation in pass rates.

“Examiners are trained to assess all tests in strict accordance with DSA guidelines; their performance is monitored to ensure they meet the high standards required of them, but they do not have quotas.

“Every test is assessed independently and on its own merits.”

From what I can see – and putting two and two together – Mr Kerr was not happy about an internal change, thought himself better than everyone around him (he virtually says this in the interview), refused to accept the amendments to the performance monitoring system or the statistical anomalies in his own performance, and went off sick (allegedly with stress, but I suspect at least partly with a strop on).

The claim that he was told to “fail more people” is his own interpretation of something he disagreed with. As I said in the previous post on this subject, I don’t doubt for a moment that some examiners fail people just to avoid getting into any sort of disciplinary trouble and maintain an artificial variance, but the DSA sure as hell doesn’t tell them to do it!

Do driving examiners fail people deliberately?

The short answer is NO. They do not. They are not told to fail people as part of any quota.

However, there are corrupt people in all walks of life, and as I’ve explained elsewhere it is possible that some examiners – a tiny percentage – fiddle their pass rates in order to avoid being “told off” by their managers.

EDIT 30/09/2010: I’m getting hits on “examiner told to fail pupils”. Mr Kerr was NOT told to fail pupils. That was his own idiotic take on being told he was not doing his job properly by passing far more people than any other examiners were doing.

Mr Kerr appears to have gone off sick after refusing to acknowledge he was not doing his job properly and that he was passing people who were not up to standard. He was off “sick” for what looks like more than a year. His employment was terminated for THAT reason.

It is also worth noting his behaviour after the event. He apparently decided to stand outside the test centre handing out his inaccurate claims in leaflet form. He was removed and threatened with arrest if he did it again. Can you imagine what it would be like for a learner going to test having some imbecile giving that sort of thing to you?

Mr Kerr’s actions clearly show that he was not the Colossus of Sense and Reason he appears to think he is.

Test Pass

Tick!Well done to RT, who passed his test with 3 driver faults this morning. The examiner commented that it was “a nice drive” as he left the car – as I’ve said before, it’s nice to have that kind of feedback sometimes.

So, no more three-buses-to-get-to-Uni any more. No more getting up at 6am to get the first bus… driving sets you free!

Another Test Pass

Tick!Like when you’re waiting for a bus, you get several turn up all at once… well done to PM for passing today with 6 driver faults. You couldn’t have cut it much finer, with going to University on 6th September!

A Test Pass

Tick!Well done to KH, who passed with 5 driver faults yesterday. And in stinking, lousy, horrible weather!

A bit of a lean patch recently – not so much with fails (I’ve had a couple, and with annoying “2 driver faults, 1 serious” type results), but mainly just not many tests.

A Good Day All Round

Well done to NM for passing first time with just one driver fault this afternoon. It was also great that the examiner commented ‘it was a nice drive’ to me as he got out of the car – makes you feel like you did something right.

This was cemented later on when my current problem pupil finally managed to do the reverse round a corner unaided for the first time in 29 lessons of trying! That must be equivalent to something like 150 attempts over the 2½ years she’s been learning with me (she hasn’t been taking lessons all that time, and not always every week when she is).

I had tried almost everything I could think of to stop her turning the wheel randomly in response to the kerb moving towards or away from the car. And she did the same thing again today on the first two tries:

  • kerb moves in – steer away from it
  • kerb moves in a bit more – steer away from it
  • kerb moves in a bit more – steer towards it!

I did something with some pens to demonstrate how illogical her reactions were, not thinking I’d done anything more than what I’ve done a hundred times before. When she got it right, she said:

She: You know what did it?

Me: No. What?

She: [points to pens] That!

It just goes to show that the real challenge in this job is finding the right buttons to press.

A Test Pass

Well done to AJ on Monday, who passed with just 4 driver faults.

I’ve had pupils before who were so nervous they were throwing up, but AJ is the first one who was just about shitting himself (literally). We had to stop at the test centre for him to go to the loo!

Of course, it doesn’t always go to plan. I had two fails this week, as well. Both had a small number of driver faults, but each made one silly mistake:

  • going into a right-turn lane to go ahead just outside the test centre (how many times have we discussed why we shouldn’t automatically migrate into the chav lane unless we have a good reason to by looking ahead and planning)

and

  • missing the 60mph to 30mph change on Coventry Lane, Bramcote then saying they “thought is was 40mph” when I asked them about it (which actually makes it worse, because it means they knew the limit had changed, but not what it had changed to)

Both are good drivers, so I’m sure they’ll pass next time.

Test Pass: 26/06/2010

Well done DL, for passing today with 1 driver fault at Colwick Test Centre.

There are two ways of looking at this:

  • well done – great result, or
  • you dipstick – you nearly got a clean sheet

Obviously, I used the first option to begin with, then ribbed him mercilessly all the way home with the second.

The fault was for not noticing a traffic light had gone to green quickly enough. Plea in mitigation that the sun was in your eyes isn’t going to make me feel any better :mrgreen:

Seriously, though: well done!

Test Pass: 24/06/2010

I may have had a pupil fail today, which is always a downer, but well done to AK who passed with 8 driver faults yesterday, at Chalfont Drive.

That 17 mile journey to work will be a lot easier now!

Driving Test Pass Rates

I just saw someone had found the blog on the search term “bill plant pass rate “.

L Plate

If you want to be pedantic – and there are a fair number of ADIs out there whose only identifiable skill is pedantry – you could argue that if an ADI is paying a lot of money for his franchise, he might not be making much profit, so he’ll have to cut back on fuel or try and fit more lessons in, so the standard of his teaching will be affected. But then, there are plenty of smaller franchises desperately cutting prices to try and win business, and that means their franchisees aren’t earning much, either.

The bottom line is that if you get a good ADI who teaches you well, passing your test is down to you and not the ADI.

EDIT 3/2/2012: Look at the official pass rate figures in the Information section – these cover a recent 12 month period.

Another Good Pass

Well done LF, who passed with 5 driver faults today.

I was worried when the door opened and I was waved over, but it was because she’d said at the beginning that she didn’t want me with her on the test but she did on the debrief. Phew!

She’s one of the best pupils I’ve had – very fast learner, excellent driver. And there’s always that extra satisfaction when it’s one you taught from scratch.

Her exams start this week, and she’s going to University in September, so today was a good start to an important next part of her life. That’s why I love this job.