Category - Bad Drivers

Taking Pupils’ Children On Lessons

I noticed a discussion on a forum about whether or not you should take pupils’ children oKid in back seatut with you when you take the parent for a driving lesson.

Well, it isn’t technically illegal. But I’d advise anyone thinking of doing it to check with their insurer first. There could easily be a clause that prohibits it – and even if there isn’t, then in the event of an accident there could be problems.

Apart from the matter of whether or not the car and occupants are covered, there is also the matter of public liability. I’m not going to try and argue one way or the other – I’ll leave that to the “legal experts” who moonlight as instructors. But I just won’t take pupils’ kids out, and that’s that. It’s my personal stance.

When it comes down to it, the main reason many instructors do take pupils’ kids out on lessons with them is that they can’t afford to lose the lesson! They then try to argue that it’s not a risk, but it is.

There was a story a few years ago in Horse & Hound, where an instructor was giving a lesson to a pupil who’d taken his/her child along. The 6-month old appeared to choke in the back seat, whereupon the instructor – and, no doubt, the learner who was being taught – turned around. The car veered across the road and hit a horse being ridden in the opposite direction.

The horse required £5,000 of veterinary treatment. The instructor was fined over £1,000 and given three points on his licence.

It would be useful to know if the instructor’s insurer met the costs of veterinary bills, etc., because as he was found guilty of driving without due care and attention, it does raise some doubt.

No one can pretend that this isn’t a genuine risk. Distraction is a known problem for parents:

Parents travelling with children in the back are statistically at even higher risk of being distracted and causing a car accident. There have been many cases where drivers have glanced in the rear-view mirror or even turned their head for a split-second to see what their kids are up to and caused a car accident as a result.

I think that sometimes driving instructors need to take a step back, put away their Big Book Of Coaching, and acknowledge where their responsibilities end. Even if they’re desperate for work or blinded by The Light, they’re driving instructors and not child-minders.

There are plenty of ways of getting learners used to distractions without risking the lives of children or other road users.

One of mine needed to learn to drive just so she could ferry her kids around. She was worried about them distracting her, and she definitely WAS very easily distracted. One time she asked if we could try driving with the radio on to see how it affected her. The instant it went on she was unable to negotiate even the simplest of junctions. She therefore learnt how distraction would be dangerous – just like it is for anyone. Some  months later we tried the same exercise and things were much improved, but still not perfect.

But no matter how good a driver someone is, if a kid starts playing up in back then anyone could Escher Trianglebe distracted to a dangerous degree at one time or another.

As for whether it is allowed on test, I doubt the examiners have much choice on the matter – they’d be hung out to dry if they refused to take a mummy out if she decided she wanted to take her sprog with her, though I still wonder at the insurance implications. I can’t imagine that every driving instructor’s insurance automatically allows it.

It’s all a bit like allowing breast-feeding in public – it’s not something you want to see when you’re eating or drinking, but there’s sod all you can do about the Earth Mothers who insist on doing it.

Let’s face facts here. Knowing that you have a driving test coming up in a month or two’s time gives you plenty of time to arrange not to have the additional pressure of your kids in the back. Ending up taking your test with them there – even planning it deliberately for whatever reason – is just evidence of the ignorance and stupidity that increasingly pervades our society.

It reminds me of something that happened years ago in France when I was on a skiing trip. On the table next to us there was a French family having a full-on raclette/fondue meal, and they had a baby in a high-chair with them. We’d just had our meal served, when we were assailed by a God-awful smell. The baby has messed in its nappy. They eventually took it to the toilets to change it (after our obvious comments and glances), but the smell didn’t go with them. It screwed up our meal, that’s for sure.

Unfortunately, some rules and practices just don’t make sense. And nor do some people’s manners and ethics.

More Panic Buying

Well, two of my local garages got fuel in again today – and there were queues at them all day. Fortunately, they weren’t as large as yesterday – although it WAS bad around midday-mid-afternoon.

I finally went in one of them tonight after my last lesson, and when the queues Darwin Award - Panic Buyershad almost gone. I thought I’d be in and out reasonably quickly, but when I got to the pay desk there was a stupid bitch with a credit card that the attendant was having to phone up someone about. Judging from his rolled eyes and repeated attempts, he couldn’t get through. In the end, we all heard clearly that she’d bought just over £12 of fuel! What was the bloody point?

When I got outside, they were queuing up the road again because no one else had been able to pay quickly and drive away.

Nice one, Victoria Mott. A nominee for the Darwin Awards 2012.

Meanwhile, the BBC reports that panic buying by people like Ms Mott  is hitting small businesses hard. People are cancelling holidays and such like. It’s not surprising – yesterday I was seriously worried that I would have to cancel lessons, even though I had half a tank left.

Half a tank lasts me a day if I’m busy. The same amount would keep idiots like Ms Mott and her kind going for a bloody week.

Panic Buying Petrol – Woman Badly Burned In York

I heard this on the radio a few minutes ago and it hasn’t filtered through properly into the news channels yet. Also on Sky News. More stories coming in from Yorkshire, and the BBC. Keep an eye on these as they will expand the story when more information comes in.

A woman in York has suffered 40% burns as the petrol she was transferring into different containers in her kitchen burst into flames.

This is entirely the fault of the “government’s” advice to panic buy.

Contrary to what it said, it did NOT withdraw the advice. It diluted it in an attempt to protect the moron who said it. The fact is, it WAS said. In just the same way that someone in court who says they “didn’t mean” to do something is still guilty of it, the “government” is guilty of advising people to panic buy.

Incoming stories suggest the woman had the gas cooker alight while she was doing it!

Cameron is totally out of touch with reality (and the electorate) if he thinks people aren’t this stupid. They are. And they are simply following the advice of HIS government.

Panic Buyers

It made me laugh listening to news yesterday. Plenty of talk about garage forecourts “running low” or seeing “increased sales”. What planet does the BBC live on, where the entire surface of the earth appears to consist only of London and the Home Counties, and nowhere else.

In Nottingham, Asda at West Bridgford had a queue outside as I drove past on a lesson at around mid-afternoon. A glance in showed the garage was shut. There was a BBC van with big satellite dish on top parked in the pub next door, so it’s not like they didn’t know.

Around the same time, Bunny service station was closed with “No Fuel” signs outside.

All day, the Esso service Station in Ruddington had had long queues outside. By evening it was empty – and there isn’t a delivery scheduled until tonight at the earliest, so I’m told.

The garage on Meadow Lane only had diesel left.

This morning, I noticed the Crusader garage had “no fuel” signs up.

I’ve noticed that 90% of the panic buyers are old people and women with kids – those with nothing else to do all day. I’m sure their adventures in the queues are the sole topic around the dinner table or outside the school gates that day. All of them will happily back up into main roads, on to roundabouts, or anywhere else they fancy, without the slightest consideration for the obstruction they are causing. Let’s be honest, who but old people and women with kids could think as one-dimensionally as that?

Fuel should be rationed. And the ANPR system ought to be able to recognise regular customers and kick out those parasites who travel around.

And the police should get off their arses and do what the forces have been doing in other counties – moving people on who block roads.

I was really worried last night. With only about half a tank of fuel, I would only have had enough to get me through today (probably) and then I’d be screwed. Fortunately, on a lesson last night I took a pupil into a garage and we managed to fill up there – it was good experience, of course. but I prefer to do this when I think they’re ready, and not because I have to.

I use a tank of fuel every two days, and that’s only fits into my week if I have unrestricted access to fuel when I get low. Because of panic buying, I dare not stick to my schedule – I cannot, otherwise I’d simply end up out of gas. I’ve just got to bite the bullet and top up when I can – and keep my fingers crossed that even that is enough.

Panic buyers haven’t made me use more fuel, but they’ve forced me to have to fill up every day instead of every other day. I will be out of work if I don’t.

Panic buyers are imbeciles. Anyone reading this who has panic bought fuel when they don’t need it is an imbecile. Anyone thinking of panic buying is an imbecile.

Morons Panic Buying Fuel

After that idiot Francis Maude told everyone to go out an panic buy fuel today – and after his so-called boss made matters worse by implying that people should only panic buy sensibly – that’s exactly what they were doing tonight (minus the “sensible” part).

There were huge queues at the garages.

They weren’t putting much in, either. A stupid bitch in a white BMW X6 attempted to barge her way in front of me (and failed), and then spent literally less than 30 seconds putting diesel in the damned thing after she’d pushed in front of someone else. She must have spent less than a tenner!

If they can’t afford to run the damned things properly they shouldn’t have them. As I often tell my pupils, not all of the jackasses who have these big cars actually own them. They technically belong to the finance company.

Ecosafe Driving – And How To Make Things More Complicated Than They Need To Be

I noticed an argument about eco-driving and overuse of the brakes, which is descending into a technical duel of opinions and misconceptions.

Ecosafe driving is a style of driving that is both safe and economical, and this is perceived as being good for the environment. The backbone of ecosafe driving is to plan ahead and know as much about what is happening around you as is possible (without compromising safety, of course). That way you can react early to situations.

Late braking and harsh acceleration are bad techniques – they always have been – and are not part of the ecosafe approach. As Driving: The Essential Skills (TES) says, these tend to increase fuel consumption. Note the word “tend”.

The reason for this is quite simple. It is pushing the accelerator (gas) which primarily affects how much fuel is used, so obviously pushing it hard and to excess (or for longer than needed) is clearly going to use a lot more gas. Harsh acceleration is therefore wasteful.

As for harsh braking, it isn’t the act of braking itself that is the problem – you don’t use more gas just by using the brake. However, if you accelerate to an unnecessary speed (which uses more gas), slamming the brakes on just wastes all that effort. So harsh braking doesn’t use gas, but it does waste it.

Of course, the whole attitude underpinning this chavvy style of driving is also likely to be increasing fuel consumption as well, so it’s a vicious circle.

As a rough guide, ecosafe driving is:

  • driving away smoothly without harsh acceleration
  • turn off your engine when safe and convenient (if you’re waiting more than a minute or two)
  • accelerate smoothly and gently
  • when safe and convenient, take your foot off the gas and use the car’s momentum to maintain speed
  • miss out gears when possible (block changing) as it requires shorter acceleration times (if done properly)
  • use the highest gear possible without making the engine strain
  • use engine braking when you can

There’s much more to it, but these are the ones which a driver has continual control over because it is part of their overall style.

You cannot avoid driving up hills, and if you were always going up them then your fuel consumption would be high. The best ecosafe method is to use gravity – and the brakes to stay within the limit using an appropriate gear – going downhill, and use momentum plus gentle gas in the appropriate gear going up.

You can’t get 100mpg going up a steep hill, and not being able to do so does not make you a poor ecosafe driver. Trying to do it in 5th gear would, though.

And Another One…

Another case of teenage deaths in a car driven by a teenage driver.

There is no suggestion that speed limits were being broken, but going too fast for the conditions is definitely implied – possibly along with juvenile naïvete.

Update: And he (Aaron Simpson) got off with the charge of careless driving. The verdict has the approval of the parents of the deceased teenagers.

I’m in no position to judge, so I won’t. All I will say is that thousands of people drive the same route daily and don’t spin off the road or collide with other vehicles.

Teenagers have somehow got to start accepting – or be forced to accept from their currently ineffectual parents – that speed and bravado are dangerous… even when you’re not technically breaking the law.

This case is just one version of the script which is played out almost daily, and which sends young drivers’ insurance premiums sky-high, as well as wrecking the lives of families and friends.

Young people simply have more accidents because they’re inexperienced drivers who believe  – and are allowed to believe – the exact opposite.

And THIS Is Why Young Drivers Will CONTINUE To Have Accidents

I wrote the other day about Euan Tennant – a learner and student who had only taken 10 lessons, bought a fast sports car, managed to rack up 1,500 miles in “a few weeks”, and who ended up in an accident which killed his girlfriend. The police said that they believed excessive speed was the cause.

I’ve also written somewhere recently about the dubious Scottish justice system – even more dubious than the English one in some cases.

Well, Tennant has been cleared!

This gives an absolutely clear message to anyone else out there with a juvenile mind and inflated sense of masculinity, who feels like buying a pratmobile when they are only just out of nappies.

You should read that most recent article. The words of the dead girl’s family make poignant reading. They can only be congratulated for holding in check the obvious words that any sane person would want to use if they weren’t constrained in some way.

The jury found that the charges of causing death by careless driving and going at excessive speed were not proven.

THIS Is Why Young Drivers Have Accidents

This is an old post. But it is still absolutely true.

In a long-overdue update – I didn’t follow the story at the time, but it was visited by a search in 2022 – Tennant was unbelievably cleared of causing his girlfriend’s death!

This story from Edinburgh illustrates clearly the absolute Number One reason many young drivers have accidents, which are often fatal.

Euan Tennant was a learner driver. He had taken “around ten” driving lessons, but never passed his test. He then went out and bought a two-litre sports car.

It was a calculated decision on his part to do this. It wasn’t like he forgot to pass his test. That he overlooked it. He knew full well what he was doing.

He had driven around 1,500 miles in the car with his 22-year old girlfriend as his supervising driver (allegedly – we must assume that she had passed her test more than 3 years previously, and that Tennant was always accompanied when he went out). He reckons she’d never told him to slow down in all that time. This version of the story says that Tennant had only owned the car “for a few weeks”, so he did well to rack up 1,500 miles in such a short time – it can take me 2-3 weeks to do that, and I’m a very heavy user!

On this one trip, Tennant lost control on a bend (the old story), Laura Campbell had to be cut from the wreckage and died a few hours later in hospital.

CCTV footage shows a speeding car, which Tennant admitted “could have been him”. He also admits overtaking another car shortly before the accident. He claims he was not speeding on the bend and that there was “something on the road surface” that made him lose control.

Just for the record, if you’re driving at a safe speed on a bend, you do not lose control and have to have your passengers cut out of the mangled wreck – even if the road does have “something on it”.

The police could find nothing on the road surface, and believe that excessive speed was the cause.

Tennant claims to have been doing 40-45mph when he lost control.

The case is ongoing, but the fact that a juvenile mind is prepared to behave in such a juvenile way – with such appalling results – is precisely why young people have accidents. It isn’t their training. It is their attitudes.

Tennant is expressing all sorts of remorse.

The fact is: he made the decision to buy a sports car with sound mind clear conscience, and hopelessly inadequate driving skills knowing he was still a beginner. And now he needs to face the music.

EDIT: And this is why young drivers will continue to have fatal crashes, because there’s no deterrent. Tennant was cleared on the grounds that the case against him was not proven. I take back a lot of what I’ve said about Scottish law making better decisions than the law in England.

I’d just point out that Laura Campbell is still dead. And Tennant was still highly inexperienced, and driving a car hopelessly too fast for his poor driving skills.

Laura’s parents understandably feel “let down” by the verdict.

How To Mangle Statistics

The Boston Standard reports that the borough’s young drivers face “one of the highest risks of being injured in car crashes in the country”.

ChavsLet’s just get things straight here. The figures do not mean that your chances of having an accident increase just by moving to Boston – it’s the higher proportion of teenagers brought up there only having a single helix in their DNA that is to blame.

Yet again, the real problem is being shoved under the carpet. The reason Boston teenagers are having more accidents is that they are bigger prats than in other places. Someone needs to be dealing with that – not trying to blame it on statistics that they don’t really understand.

“Experts” are trying to suggest that poor public transport and long distances from home to school are to blame. But this argument is based on totally separate “statistics” designed to dumb things down. It would appear that if you live in Boston, it’s a 3 mile round trip even to go to the toilet, and you need a passport to go to school because you have to move through several international borders!

Let’s do what the Boston Standard didn’t do, and actually read the report, which you can access here.

Instead of adopting the Boston Standard’s selective and scaremongering approach, lets list ALL the factors the report identified.

Analysis has identified a number of common factors present in young driver collisions, including the following:

  • They tend to drive older cars with less crash protection
  • There are often three or more casualties in their collisions
  • Their collisions often occur at night and at weekends
  • Their collisions often occur on wet roads
  • Their collisions often occur on minor roads in rural areas with a 60mph speed limit
  • Their collisions are often single vehicle so involve no other road user
  • They often occur on bends, particularly on rural roads
  • Their vehicle often skids, and in some cases then overturns
  • Their vehicle often leaves the road, and in many cases hits a roadside object or enters a ditch

Summarising, you can say that young drivers drive bangers filled with their mates, and mostly at night (a progression from arseing about on skateboards and BMX bikes outside the chippie). Since they’re usually travelling at speed, their accidents occur on wet roads and bends – particularly on roads where it is possible to put your foot down – which results in the car skidding and overturning, and often hitting objects off the road (i.e. trees and posts).

The Boston Standard appears to have only seen the one about rural roads and taken it out of context with the others.

The report notes:

Nationally, the research found that young drivers who are from rural areas are significantly overrepresented within the collision statistics compared to their urban counterparts.

So, young drivers in rural areas DO have more accidents overall. When you look at the report’s bar chart for the three areas it has identified – urban, town, and rural – you see that there is a progression from the first category up to the third. Basically, in places where you can’t drive fast, you stand less chance of hurting yourself than you do in places where you CAN drive fast. It’s bloody obvious.

The report further discovers that there is no difference between the different areas for drivers 30 and over. Tellingly, it uses the term “mature adults”. Now we’re getting to the nitty-gritty of the cause.

The report then adds:

It would therefore suggest that rural roads themselves are not responsible for the increased collision involvement of rural young drivers.

The Boston Standard and it’s “experts” are talking rubbish, then, when they try to sweep the problem under the rug.

The report continues:

There is very little difference between young and older drivers for the speed limit of the road on which they were involved in collisions.

Quite. It is inappropriate speed that is the issue. Inappropriate for the situation, and inappropriate for the driver’s skills (or lack thereof).

The report says:

The mileage data shows that rural residents have 31% higher annual average mileage than their urban counterparts. For adult drivers, this does not lead to a higher collision risk… Young rural drivers, however, are 37% more likely to be involved in a collision than urban young drivers.

This is just stating the obvious. The longer you’re in the car driving it, the more likely you are to have an accident if you’re already in a higher risk group.

But what shoots all of this out of the water is the risk map included in the report. Some of the most rural areas – and ones with the most winding and out-of-the-way roads – such as ALL of Scotland, and large parts of the northern areas have risk indices that are around the the norm (100). The peaks correspond generally to very specific areas of well-known idiot-country. The lowest indices relate to exclusively urban areas – the report makes that clear,

The report concludes that younger drivers are at risk, particularly on rural roads. That has been known for years. The report also concludes that it isn’t the roads themselves that are the problem. It is specifically younger drivers, for whom the risks increase the more rural their driving areas are. It states clearly:

…this would imply that there is something about rurality and young drivers (through inexperience and/or attitude) that leads to increased collision risk.

THIS IS PRECISELY THE PROBLEM.

It must be obvious that since you cannot create experience out of nothing, then care is needed while it is being acquired. Young drivers simply do not exercise care – they have appalling attitudes on the road. And they are clearly less likely to do so in certain areas – Boston might have come out in the top risk group, but there are plenty of considerably more rural locations which didn’t.

Looking at my own region, I note that Mansfield and Bassetlaw feature well above the norm. And yet Nottingham – which I can assure you has it’s fair share of complete prats – is right down at the bottom (i.e. the good) end. The numbers don’t seem to prove anything when you consider that detail.